Q. I suppose you refer here to Abraham's affidavit, Document NO-2127, in Document Book 21, page 60 of the German text?
A. Yes.
Q. Witness, therefore, we have two orders: first, that the gold teeth were to be removed, and, second, that the removal was to be supervised by a dentist. Could you or your superior agency order the camp commandants to have the gold teeth removed? If the removal had been up to the camp dentists-
A. No, I could give no orders of any sort to the camp commandant, nor could my superior agency have done so. They could only issue orders of an expert type.
Q. You said repeatedly that a dentist was under three different agencies; in a disciplinary and military measure, under the commander; then under the doctor of the unit; and, in factual matters, under the leading dentist. Which of these three agencies was in a position to issue the order to remove gold teeth to the dentists in the camp?
A. The order to supervise the removal of the gold teeth, could be done only in the military manner or the medical method. The supervision was not a factual function, and, therefore, the order could not be issued in the factual way. As I said before, this becomes clear from the documents that the order for supervision was issued by Lolling on the medical side.
Q. Now, will you state what your authority was with respect to the camp dentists, did you have the authority to issue orders?
A. No; I said before that I was in a position up to a point to supervise the dentists under me in factual matters, but I did not have the authority to issue orders. I had the possibility to give factual suggestions, but these again went through my superiors to the dentists, and not directly.
Q. What is the factual work of a dentist?
A. What a dentist does is to take steps which are necessary in order to keep the teeth healthy, generally and to do such repair work as becomes necessary.
One could also say that the manufacture of artificial teeth for cosmetic reasons is part of his work.
Q. Does the removal of gold teeth from deceased inmates belong to that work?
A. No; the removal of gold teeth from deceased persons is not part of that work because that type of work is not concerned with killing pain or with help for suffering humanity.
Q. The indictment accuses you of being chief of the dentists, and therefore becoming responsible for the removal of gold teeth from corpses in concentration camps under the WVHA. That, so to speak, you were the chief man in charge of supervision.
A. I was never given an order by anybody to supervise these things in this respect, and I did not do so. I was given no such order at any time.
Q. Then, later on, the reports about the gold teeth reached your office?
A. At my time, the reports about gold teeth went through Office D-3, as did all other reports, because that was the official channel for the dentists in the camp. The same thing applied to my predecessor, I am told. What happened before, when there was no chief dentist with D-3, I am unable to tell you.
Q. What was the purpose of the reports being passed on to Office-14?
A. What purpose was to be reached thereby, I am unable to tell you. I did not issue the order, and I don't know why it was issued. I can only assume that it was a measure to control the dentists so that they would carry out the ordered supervision, and that, therefore, they had to give a report.
Q. Witness, did the fact that you received these reports have any influence on the actual removal of the gold teeth?
A. No, the removal of gold teeth would have been carried out even if these reports had not been made out. If I had had the order to keep statistics about death rates in concentration camps I could not later on be made responsible for the fact that inmates died.
Q. Could you have ordered Office-14 to discontinue the removal of gold teeth?
A. That would have been quite impossible. That order, to stop that Action, would have to be carried out by Office Group Chief D, and be addressed to the camp commandants. Also, through the physician, Chief of Office D-3 to the camp doctors. Both agencies were not in a position to issue such orders to anybody at all. Furthermore, there is the fact that the order to remove gold teeth was an order by Himmler, as Reichsfuehrer--and against that I, or my superior agency, would not have been in a position to do anything at all.
Q. Dr. Pook, in summation, I would like to ask you: Do you believe that you are responsible for the removal of gold teeth from deceased inmates--and therefore guilty--in the sense of the indictment?
A. In my case, criminal responsibility makes necessary an official responsibility. A military superior can be made responsible for the actions of his subordinates only in as much as that action fell within the frame and limits of his official responsibility.
Q. You want to say, therefore, that the removal of gold teeth was not part of your official sphere of responsibility as chief dentist?
A. Yes; the removal of gold teeth went beyond the limits of my official responsibility; my official responsibility concerned only the factual activities and work of dentists. When a soldier becomes part of the process of an order being transmitted, he does not take on any responsibility thereby, no factual responsibility, as it were, for the things which had gone through his office.
BY JUDGE PHILLIPS:
Q. After the order was issued that the camp dentist supervise the removal of the gold from the teeth of dead inmates, did you carry out that order and supervise the removal of the gold?
A. Your Honor, I must assume so. Many statements by camp dentists show in my case, in documents presented by the Prosecution, that camp dentists were present when the gold teeth were being removed. When other inmates were used actually to remove the gold teeth from inmates-
Q. You didn't answer my question. I asked you: In consequence of the order that the dentist in the camps supervise the removal of the gold teeth of the dead inmates, did you supervise it, in your camp?
A. Your Honor, I was not in a camp.
Q. Well, did you supervise it anywhere?
A. I personally--no. I carried out no supervision.
Q. You did not do any work on the inmates in Oranienberg?
A. No; I was not active in the Oranienberg camp. I visited the actual protective custody camp of Oranienberg-Sachsenhausen throughout my service only twice, I believe--for a very short time. And I only inspected the dental station.
Q. Did you have a dentist subordinate to you in Oranienberg?
A. Yes.
Q. Did you transmit the order to him to supervise the removal of teeth from the inmates in Oranienberg?
A. No, sir, I did not give him that order because that order was issued in 1942 at a time when I was still in Berlin. I was not yet active in Oranienburg at that time.
Q. Was the order carried out by your subordinates after you come to Oranienburg and as a part of D-III?
A. Yes, the dentist of Oranienburg sent also these reports about the gold removed from the dead who had died a natural death.
BY JUDGE MUSMANNO:
Q. When you travelled from camp to camp or visited the camp in any way, did you not have conferences with the dentists in those camps?
A. Your Honor, I only saw very few camps. If I had had my own way, I would gone to the camps more frequently, but, unfortunately, it did not work according to my own ideas. When I visited these camps I limited myself usually to be present in the area of the commandant's office or the barracks. My visits to the actual protective custody camps, in order to inspect the dental station there where inmates were being treated, were always limited to a very brief period of time and took place usually in the morning or, at least, in the day time.
Q. You did, naturally, speak with the dentists in the camps, did you not?
A. Yes, the camp dentist was always present, the one who was responsible for the dental station.
Q. Would it not be inescapable in your discussions with these dentists, these camp dentists, that the subject of the removal of gold teeth from deceased inmates would come up?
A. That subject was usually not discussed. Everybody feels shy of mentioning these things. That it was being done, we knew. I knew it and the camp dentists knew it, but we were not in a position to stop it.
BY DR. RATZ:
Q. Witness, do you believe that you could be charged with the fact that simply be receiving and passing on the reports you were part of this action?
A. Positively not. It cannot be, because these reports which passed through my office were not significant of the actual removal of the gold teeth.
Q. What quantities of gold teeth gave the individual camps in that monthly report?
A. The reports about quantities removed by the dentists and passed on to the Administrative Officer were usually very small. Many camps sent no reports at all and from there one had to assume that no gold had been removed. This is also being confirmed by a document submitted by the prosecution in Document Book V, Document NO-1621, Exhibit 154. This is an order by Liebehenschel, of January, 1943. Here it is where he issues orders to the camp commandants that administrative officers are to hand over the gold no longer monthly or quarterly, but annually in the future. He also makes reference in this document to an order issued by his office, which is Office D-1/1, as early as 1942. All these orders, therefore, about the removal of teeth--of gold teeth--and everything connected with it came from Office D-I.
Q. Do you know what happened to the gold teeth after they left the camp?
A. I didn't know about that at the time, namely, what happened to the gold from the moment it left the Administrative Officer. I made my assumptions, of course, that the administrative Officer would pass it on through his official channels. I know today that the Administrative Officer used D-IV in Office Group D and sent it to Melmer to the WVHA. This become clear from a document Book III. This is a statement made by the administrative Officer of Buchenwald,: a man called Barnewald.
May I perhaps quote a few words, which are connected with the matter. "Gold removed from deceased inmates was sent to me monthly by the dentist with a voucher and I sent it on to Burger in D-IV. But I know the first order which I received with reference to the gold teeth came from D-IV and at that time it was Standartenfuehrer Kaindl in 1940 or 1941." But there is also another statement, which is made by a former administrative officer of Auschwitz who was later Office Chief of D-IV, Burger. The same facts can be seen from that document. Burger says in his affidavit-
DR. RATZ: Witness, to interrupt you, I wish to submit this affidavit to the court now. If the Tribunal please, in my Document Book, it is Document Hermann Pook No. 3, and I wish to give it Exhibit No. 3. It is on page 34 of the Document Book. May I say briefly, that Burger was from 1942 until April 1942 Administrative Officer in the Auschwitz concentration camp. Then he wasp art of the administration of Office Group D of the WVHA. He became an office chief by the end of 1944. He says that the handing over of gold teeth was done in the following manner: The order went through the camp commandant to the administration of the camps and the gold then was sent to the WVHA by the administrative officer. I would like to read an important passage, which is at the bottom of page 24:
"The delivery of the teeth gold was due to an order issued by Gluecks in the beginning of 1943, according to which in addition to the other valuables also the gold of deceased prisoners' teeth was to be handed over. The order was received by the camp commander Hoess who informed the administration thereof."
I would like to state that he confirms what the witness has said. To continue;
"The gold of the deceased prisoners was collected together with other valuables -- Jewelry, rings, watches--and sent to the Economic and Administrative Main Office--WVHA--by the administration of the camp. It went to the Office Group A of the WVHA. I did that myself during my activity as Verwaltungsfuehrer in Auschwitz and can therefore make a definite statement as to this. Hauptsturmfuehrer Melmer, with Office Group A of the WVHA in Berlin, was the person who received these consignments. Once I personally carried out such a transport to Berlin; there were several suitcases that we transported from Auschwitz to Berlin in a truck. Also on other occasions these consignments always went to the Office Group A of the WVHA in Berlin. It is not known to me what the Office D-III of the WVHA, i.e. Lolling or Pook, had to do with the removal of tooth gold."
Then he continues about his experiences as an administrative chef in Office Group D, on page 25:
"While I was working in the administration of the Office Group D. later on Office B-IV, about the end of 1943 or at the beginning of 1944 one more order was received signed by Gluecks, which had been sent to all concentration camps. This order stipulated that all valuables of deceased Jews including the collected tooth gold which had been confiscated by order of the Reich Main Security Office were to be delivered in sealed parcels to D-IV at fixed dates, as far as I remember quarterly, from there the valuables received from all concentration camps with the exception of Auschwitz were to be handed over to Office Group A (Melmer) collectively. This procedure has been followed. This order did not apply to Auschwitz. A special order existed for this camp according to which this camp had to make its deliveries directly to the Office Group A. As far as I know, larger quantities were collected in Auschwitz whereas in the other camps the quantities of collected valuables were small."
The witness then goes on to say, I quote:
"As already noted I do not know what Office D-III had to do with the valuables including the tooth gold. It is not known to me that Dr. Pook had to deal with these things. All valuables coming from a camp including the tooth gold were in each case packed together into one parcel, this parcel was sealed, and it also contained tooth gold. I was not permitted to open the parcel, but I had to forward it to Office Group A in its sealed condition."
Then he says on page 27:
"As has already been mentioned, the Auschwitz concentration camp delivered the valuables to Hauptsturmfuehrer Melmer with the Office Group A directly since in Auschwitz much greater quantities of valuables were collected. I cannot tell whether Office D-III had knowledge of these deliveries from Auschwitz. If one office received such an order-- these were always top secret, military, and top secret-- the other offices did not hear anything about if. I, therefore, do not know either whether Office D-III had received a separate order on the delivery or utilization of tooth gold. As already mentioned, I do not know either whether on the other hand the Office D-III knew that the delivery of the valuables partly was carried on via my office."
The witness then says briefly that such secret orders were not to be discussed by the employees of the various offices.
THE PRESIDENT: We will recess until 1:45. I remind you again that we will recess for the day at three o'clock.
THE MARSHAL: The Tribunal will recess until 1345.)
( A recess was taken until 1345 hours.)
AFTERNOON SESSION 1345 hours, 3 July '47 DR. HERMANN POOK - continued DIRECT EXAMINATION - resumed
THE MARSHAL: The Tribunal is again in session.
BY DR. RATZ:
Q Witness, I think I just read to you before recess the affidavit by Burger, who was Administrative Chief in Auschwitz, and then office Chief Office in WVHA, and he testified to the fact that there was a special order for Auschwitz, according to which this camp had to hand over the things to Amtsgruppe-D, rather than to Amts-D-4. I would like to ask you what were the reports you received from Auschwitz?
A From Auschwitz I also only received reports concerning the gold just the same as applied to all the other camps.
Q How can you explain this fact as it says there that mass extermination on a large scale has taken place?
A I have to assume that that tooth gold came from the extermination action which had been removed from the deceased persons, and that for secret reasons it was not reported. I in any case never received any report about that.
Q Apart from you, witness, do you believe that dentists participated in the extermination action?
A I don't know that, and I don't assume so. In a document which was introduced by the Prosecution, namely, the affidavit by a physician in Auschwitz Endress, which is NO-2368 in Document Book 21, Endress states that the removal of gold teeth was carried out under the supervision of an underscharfuhrer who had been designated by Doctor Lolling, especially for that purpose.
Q Which were the reports you received from the camps of the Government General, for instance Lublin?
A From the camps in connection with the Government General, so far as I can recall, I never did receive any reports. I have heard names of those names at the time.
Q In this trial the Reinhardt Action, which is one of the main points of the indictment, that is the extermination of Jews in the concentration camps, and the use of their property is mentioned. In the documents introduced by the Prosecution it also stated that gold has been removed from the mouths of deceased Jews, and that it was delivered to the Reich Bank. Did you have anything to do with the Reinhardt Action, or, did you know anything about the Reinhardt Action?
A I had nothing to do with the Reinhardt Action, nor did I know of it. The name "Reinhardt Action" was absolutely unknown to me at the time. I heard it for the first time here in the trial when I heard it mentioned from the documents here. At the time I was not a member of the WVHA, and I was not even in Germany. I would like to mention two important documents which were introduced by the prosecution for that particular period of time on the Reinhardt Action. One of them is Himmler's order about the economic development of the whole thing, which is document No. No--64, Exhibit No. 486 and it is contained in Document Book No. 19. The other one is a letter by Globocnik where he states that the Reinhardt Action was completed on 19 October 1943, and that all camps had been dissolved. That document is contained in Document Book 18, Exhibit No. 473, Document No. NO-056, and that is the second document mentioned in this connection. From both documents can be seen that the date, or the approximate period of time is approximately the time when I was transferred to the WVHA, so that for that reason I could not know anything about it. Nor did I later on, during my service in Office D-3, learn anything about those facts.
Q As to the first document you mentioned here, NO-064, which is time document on Economic development as to Reinhardt Action, when was the winding up of the Reinhardt Action ordered according to this document?
A On 22 September 1943.
Q And when did you join Office D-3?
A I started to work on D-3 early in December.
Q Would you like to say then that due to the date, or with respect to the time and to the date, you could not possibly have participated in the Reinhardt Action?
A Yes. From these two documents this becomes clear. However, even the reports which I received about the recovered gold teeth, showed so small amounts that I could not possibly have thought there was a mass extermination during all this time.
Q Did you gain knowledge of such thing while speaking with Dr. Lolling, and other members of Amtsgruppe-D?
AAs I said before I was busy all day at the depot station, and whenever I did not return to Berlin in the evening, I had a room at the depot station where I slept when I was in Oranienburg. The other members of Amtsgruppe-D, and so far as they did not live with their families, were billeted in the Building of Amtsgruppe-D. Even if me or the other circle of Amtsgruppe-D would have known about such actions, I don't know anything about it. Well, even then I did not learn anything, because I had no contact with any of these comrades. Many of then were not even known to no according to their names. Dr. Lolling himself never did talk about these things. In any case, our conversations dealt only with dental questions.
Q: Could you have found out anything about it on the basis of the mail which you received in the camp and on the basis of orders which you received from your subordinates? Do you think you could have gained any knowledge that somebody on the outside could not have had?
A: As I stated before, all of the mail came to Lolling first. I was shown only that mall that was in direct connection with my work and of which I had to have knowledge. However, reports and regulations which were coming from my superior agencies, regardless of whether they came from XIV or Lolling; dealt only with dental matters.
Q: You wish to say then that it really was not a fact that all the members of Amtsgruppe D knew anything about the extermination of the Jews?
A: No, I should think not. I should think that not all of them knew about it, but only those who could be considered people who issued orders or were executives. As a dentist, I had nothing to do with those things, because the mass exterminations in the East were surely outside of the dentist's professional framework. That was the reason why I did not have to know anything shout it on an informational basis.
Q: In your sphere of activity or authority as a dentist, did you have any dealings with "secret" or "top secret" matters?
A: No, the dental matters were not of such importance that they were to be considered secret or top secret. The only regulation existing was that the report concerning the removal of gold from the teeth was to be treated as secret. That, I am sure, was the lowest level of the secrecy regulations. Even that regulation was not always complied with, and all of those reports did not at all times come in as secret or top secret.
Q: I would like to show you now Document Book 5 and particularly NO-1963, Exhibit 155, which is on Page 171 of the German and Page 165 of the English Document Book. The Prosecution here submitted quite a few reports on the gold. What do you have to say about that?
A: These reports are unknown to me. I did not know that such reports had to be sent in by the camp physicians -- not by the camp dentists -- of the political departments in the camps. But even in those documents, as a reference, it states, "Reichsfuehrer SS, dated 23 September 1940." That is the original order for the removal of gold teeth.
Q: A report was made out for each inmate on the tooth gold obtained? Will you as a dentist tell us whether this is a small or large amount of gold.
A: The amounts of 1 gram, 1.2 grams, 1.5 grams, are so small that this cannot be anything but one single tooth. One of the reports about 5.8 grams was probably a bridge.
Q: In the same document book -- No. 5 -
THE PRESIDENT: Just a minute. How much gold does this letter indicate was taken from the mouth of this one Danish prisoner? Our document book shows that it was 5,800 grams of gold, which is ridiculous. What should it be -- 5.8?
A: No, Your Honor, that means 5.8 grams.
THE PRESIDENT: There is quite a difference.
BY DR. RATZ:
Q: In the same document book we have document NO-1521, which is on Page 72 of the German document book, and here the Chief of the Central Office ordered on 1 January 1943 that the gold should be collected in the camp for a whole year and that smaller amounts of gold were not to be sent in monthly. What do you have to state about that?
A: I mentioned this document before on one occasion It was unknown to me, as this comes from the year 1942 -or, rather -- let me correct this -- 1943. In other words, in a time when I was not in Office D--III as yet. It can be seen that the regulations concerning the gold came from Office D-1. As I stated before, it confirms the fact that the amounts of gold in the camps were rather small. Otherwise, such an order would not have been necessary. As far as knowledge of this order for the dentists is concerned, or even for the dentist in D-III, that was not necessary, because the sending was only to be by the administrative offices, and the dentists, both those in the camp and also the dentists in D-III, had nothing to do with this matter.
Q: In Document NO-1923, Document Book XII, Exhibit 552, Amtsgruppe chief D, "ordered on 13 January 1944 that as of February 1944 the monthly reports that were sent in by teletype so far were submitted to that office were sent by courier as of now." What do you have to say about that document?
A: I had no knowledge of that document though it came in on 13 January 1944. I saw it here for the first time.
THE PRESIDENT: What is the Exhibit Number you are talking about now?
DR. RATZ: Exhibit 552, Your Honor. Document Book 22.
BY DR. RATZ:
Q: What would you like to say about that?
A: I had no knowledge of this letter which was sent out by Gluecks in January 1944. From this letter it can be seen that all other reports which came from the dental Nations of the camps were to be sent to the Chief of Office D-III.
As far as that goes, that letter is nothing but a compilation of reports which are necessary, and this letter describes the channels which the letter has to follow to go from the camp to Amtsgruppe D. I naturally did not know how these reports were sent to Amtsgruppe D. I did not know whether they went through the mail or via courier service. Now it is ordered that hey must be sent via courier. There is bound to be some sort of a connection between the fact that the mail system was no longer sure enough because of the repeated air raids.
Court No. II, Case No. 4.
BY JUDGE PHILLIPS:
Q Witness, look at Document 464, no, Exhibit 64 in Document Book No. III.
A Your Honor, I do not have it.
Q 76 of the English, Exhibit 64.
A Will you tell me the NO number, your Honor, please?
Q 1548.
A Yes, indeed, your Honor.
Q The same date, 13th of January, 1944, and it is the same date as Exhibit 552. It appears to be an order signed by Hoess, H-o-e-s-s, as Chief of Office D-I. Among other things he states in this order that reports are to be made; one, name of prisoners; two, execution, of the number of executions carried out; then six, number of people given special treatment. He states in this order that these reports must be made to the chiefs of Offices D-II and D-III, and the figures must check with reports made to them. Now, do you know anything about that order?
A No, your Honor. I don't even know this order. As can be seen from the top of the document, it concerns reports on protective custody camps.
Q Yes.
AAnd it is absolutely unknown to me. I never did see that letter, sir.
Q Well, if the reports had to check with reports in your office, you should have known something about it, shouldn't you?
A I don't know how to understand that, your Honor. What reports? These reports had to check with what reports that I received?
Q Well, the reports were to come from the camp commanders of the concentration camps, and they were to come to your office and D-II.
A I have no idea whatsoever what reports went into D-III. I only saw that mail which dealt explicitly with dental matters that I had to know. I don't know what Lolling received.
Court No. II, Case No. 4.
Q Wouldn't you think these reports came to your office for the purpose of shewing how many people had been killed so that you would know what to expect in the way of dental gold?
A No, no, your Honor. That was not important at all for me, what kind of gold came and what amounts. I had nothing to do with that.
BY DR. RATZ:
Q Witness, the Witness Dr. Kahr, on the 10th of April, which is in the German record on Page 215, to the question whether the gold from the teeth of the deceased inmates, was sent to the Office of the Chief Physician in Office D-III, has answered that he couldn't say that for sure. Whereupon, the Prosecution asked him: "You did know, however, that it went to Office D for III, didn't you?" The witness answered, "Yes". Now, Witness, I am asking you this question, would you like to make a statement about that?
A There was no such thing as an office of the leading dentist, and the gold of the deceased inmates was not even sent to Office D-III, but as I stated before, and as it is confirmed by administrative leaders, to Office D-IV, and then to Melmer in Berlin, to the WVHA, that is to say, without the slightest contact, without even touching Office D-III.
Q We shall now come to another chapter, to the chapter concentration camps. During your activity as leading dentist in Office D-III, did you ever visit concentration camps? Give me all the details about your visits.
A I have stated before that I did see a few camps, that is to say, not the camps themselves, but the dental offices in the camp. It would have been necessary, perhaps, to go on official trips to visit the dental stations in the camps more frequently. However, I have to say that Lolling was against it in general, and that I couldn't get that idea through in his head, to go to this and that place. I did not have a basic permit to enter camps. That permit was given from case to case, and that only in order to visit the dental Court No. II, Case No. 4.clinics.
That was explicitly stated on the passes. For the main part I went to the camp because some dentist ashed me to come and see him by private letter. He didn't ask me to do so officially, privately, and that usually because he had difficulties with the camp physician who was his superior. The relationship between physician and dentist has never been too good, regardless of where it was, even with the field units. Even with the field units one had the same difficulties. That was usually the case when new dispensary barracks were being established, particularly in 1944 when several new branch camps were established. Now if a new barrack was to be established then a dental station was also installed there. That is how difficulties arose, to obtain those rooms for offices which the dentist thought he needed. This was the particular reason for my visit to Dora, D-o-r-a, in Nordhausen, namely to get the idea through with Dr. Kahr that he place more rooms at the disposal of the dental clinic which was to be established in new medical barracks there than the ones he had anticipated. At the time I had a long negotiation, which lasted for half an hour in his office, and finally got it through that instead of that one room, or one office, we received two larger rooms and one smaller in this particular barracks mentioned before.
This station was a station in the protective custody camp. That is where the inmates were to receive their treatment. Generally speaking, my visits were limited to a stay within the KommandanturArea. Visits of the protective custody camp itself were ordinarily limited to a very short period of time for the inspection of the dental station. The visits usually took place in the morning or early in the afternoon, that is to say, at a time when the inmates were out for work in those labor details. That is the reason why, generally speaking, I only saw very few inmates, only those inmates who were working within the camp area.
Q Now, you tell us that the small outside camps were established outside the main concentration camps. Therefore, there must Court No. II, Case No. 4.have arisen the question if a dental clinic was to be established in the outside camps for the inmates.
How was it that that was carried out?
A In 1944, as I have stated before, quite a few outside camps were added to the old concentration camps. Within the framework of the medical supply for those camps, the supply with dental material was also to be handled. That was a matter which was left up to the dentist of that particular main camp together with the camp physician, that is to say, his official superior. He had to decide, after having had conferences with the camp physician, if it will be necessary to have a dental clinic in that camp, or then if it would be sufficient if he or someone else in the station would come to the office a few days a week in order to take care of the inmates there. He wrote a report to Office D-III on this question, and when a new station was to be established then he applied for the equipment in Office XIV.