If his physical construction was weak and if, in addition to that, he was naked, death often set in already after 80 minutes. But there were a number of cases where the experimental subject lived up to three hours, and remained that way in the water until finally death set in."
At this time there was a recess until the next day.
THE PRESIDENT: At this time we will recess for fifteen minutes.
A recess was taken.
THE MARSHAL: The persons in the court room will rise. The Tribunal is again in session.
MR. DENNY: Your Honors, I have a few more excerpts that I would like to read into the record, from the testimony of Walter Neff, given on the 18th of December, 1946, before the American Military Tribunal in the matter of the United States of America against Earl Brandt, et al, defendants, sitting in Nuernberg, Germany.
This is entitled: NOKW-450, and I will begin reading on page 57 of the English Document Book and on page 82 of the German Document Book.
THE PRESIDENT: Will you give this a central exhibit number?
MR. DENNY: No, Your Honor. I would like to give this just one exhibit number for the two documents so far presented.
THE PRESIDENT: 101?
MR. DENNY: 101. (Reading) Beginning with the question:
"Q Now, witness, didn't Rascher also make reports to the Luftgau No. 7 in Dachau?
A In Dachau to Air District No. 7 and the Sanitary Department of No. 7 final reports. These were reports which were handled as top secret and they were sent to Reichsfuehrer SS, Sievers, and to the Sanitary Department of the Air District.
Q Tell the Tribunal, witness, what this Luftgau No. 7 in Munich was.
A That I cannot explain. I only know that the designation Luftgau Sanitaetsamt No. 7 existed, and that the offices were on Prinzregentenstrasse, and that Rascher was receiving instruction from there, too. To whom the reports were handed directly and to whom they were passed on is something I do not know.
Q But you do know that Luftgau No. 7 was a medical installation of the Luftwaffe, isn't that so?
A Yes.
Q And was it not on the occasion of the delivery of one of these reports when you went with Rascher to Luftgau No. 7 and on that occasion that you saw the defendant Waltz?
A. Whether it was on that occasion when a report was delivered or some other occasion, since Rascher visited Luftgau No. 7 quite frequently, is something I cannot recollect exactly. I don't want to state that it was just the day when a top secret matter was handed over.
Q. Was Rascher well known in Luftgau No. 7 in Munich?
A. Yes, because before Rascher was the head of the experimental station in Dachau he had an experimental station dealing with "E" measures at Schongau, also coming under Luftgau No. 7.
Q. Now, witness, let's move along to the dry freezing experiments. When were they first conducted, do you know?
A. According to my recollection, the air freezing experiments were carried out in January, February, and March, 1943. First of all, one experiment was made when the prisoner was placed on a stretcher at night and put outside the block. He was covered with a linen sheet but a bucket of cold water was poured over him hourly. That experimental subject remained there under these conditions until the morning and the temperature of that experimental subject was taken with a thermometer. Later Rascher said that it had been a mistake to cover the person with a linen cloth and pour water over him since that had produced wrong results as the air could not get at the body of the person and therefore, in the future experimental subjects were not allowed to be covered up any longer. The next experiment was a mass experiment when ten prisoners were also put outside naked at night. The temperature of one of then was measured with a galvanometer, the others with a thermometer. Rascher was present during approximately eighteen to twenty experiments of that type but I cannot remember exactly how many deaths occurred and if deaths occurred in connection with these experiments. I would like to say with certain reservations that approximately three deaths occurred during that period."
MR. DENNY: Now, going to the next page, to the question beginning:
"Q. Now, were these experimental subjects selected in the same manner as those for the wet freezing and high altitude experiments?
A. Yes.
Q. In other words, some of these experimental subjects were political prisoners, some were criminal prisoners and not all of them had been condemned to death; that correct?
A. Of the experimental subjects subjected to air cooling experiments, none were people who were sentenced to death. They were prisoners of various nationalities. There were also German political prisoners and "green" prisoners.
Q. And these prisoners had not volunteered? Had they?
A. No.
Q. Now, witness, tell us to the best of your ability, tell us how long Dr. Rascher was a member of the Medical Service of the Luftwaffe?
A. I can only say that up until the end of 1943 Rascher appeared in the SS uniform. On the other hand, I know that as early as the beginning of these freezing experiments, they were carried out by the Ahnenerbe Institute and the finances of the Ahnenerbe Institute paid the expenses.
Q. How do you know that they paid the expenses?
A. I know that from the correspondence, which Rascher had with the Ahnenerbe Institute since the clerk working in the office was telling us currently about most important matters. He too, you know, was a prisoner.
Q. But, Rascher did up until the end of 1943 wear the uniform of a Luftwaffe officer; is that correct?
A. Yes.
Q. So that all during the high altitude experiments, the freezing experiments in water and the air freezing experiments, Rascher was wearing the uniform of a Luftwaffe officer; is that right?
A. Yes, he was a captain or staff medical officer in the Luftwaffe.
MR. DENNY: That completes the reading of the testimony given at the trial, your Honor.
I would like now to offer in evidence an affidavit sworn to by the same Walter Neff. This will be part of the same exhibit No. 101, and is on page 53 of the English document book, and on page 78 of the German document book. This is NOKW-426 Statement -- "I, Walter Neff, swear, state and declare: That I was born on 22 February 1909, in Westheir in the vicinity of Augsburg (Germany); That I was seized by the Nazis in the year 1938 and brought to the concentration camp Dachau, because I had prevented an SS bomb-outrage (SS-Bombenattentat) on an Austrian police officer. On 1 February 1942 I was assigned as ward supervisor in Dr. Rascher's Experimentation department. I was charged with the duty of supervising the ten subjects for experiments, confined in this station, and was responsible for order and cleanliness. It was part of my duties to present a report to Dr. Rascher at the end of each month. At the conclusion of each report the number of casualties which occurred within the course of the month are given. Sixty to seventy involuntary subjects for experiments died as a result of the High Altitude Experiments (Hoehenversuche). Seventy to eighty were killed during the later freezing experiments. (Unterkuehlungsversuchen). In the middle of 1942 the cars with low pressure chambers were taken away."
MR. McMAHON: It should be 'taken away' instead of 'received'.
"On this day, the beginning of July 1942, 5 persons were killed. The name of Fieldmarshal Milch was frequently mentioned in Dachau. Every time I asked Dr. Romberg how long the cares and the pressure chambers would remain in Dachau, he said, that Milch would attend to everything, he assured me that he had communicated with Milch personally and that the cars would remain in Dachau as long as he specified. I am certain that Milch knew Dr. Rascher. The low-pressure chamber was brought to Dachau and taken away again on the basis of orders for which Milch was responsible. I have read the above statement consisting of one page in the German language and declare that it is the complete truth according to the best of my knowledge and belief. I had an opportunity to make alterations and collections in the above statement. I made this statement voluntarily and without any promise of reward, and I was subjected to no force or threat whatsoever.
Signed Walter Neff, at Nurnberg 23rd day of December, 1946."
MR. McMAHON: The next document which the Prosecution wishes to introduce will be exhibit No. 102 and is Document No. 1581 PS, found on page 79 of the English document book, and 109 of the German copy. This document is a letter from Nini Rascher, Dr. Rascher's wife, which is dated 13 April 1942, written to Dr. Brandt. Mrs. Rascher asks permission to take colored pictures of autopsies since heretofore only black and white photos had been permitted. This letter demonstrates beyond a doubt that fatalities ensued frequently from the medical experiments. The letter reads as follows: "Dear Dr. Brandt: My husband asks you to get him the permission, if possible of the Reichfuehrer to take immediate colored photos of his new preparations (Frischpruefarate) (of persons just dissected). As a rule only black -- white photographing is permitted in the camp. As he wants to evaluate the preparations later on, these photos would be very important for his work. May I ask you for a short early answer? This letter is forwarded by courier. With best regards and many thanks I remain with -- Heil Hitler, yours respectful Nini Rascher." This is Prosecution Exhibit No. 102.
We now turn to Document No. 218, on page 80 of the English book and 110 of the German book, and is Prosecution's Exhibit No. 103. This is a letter from Rascher to Himmler, describing an experiment which resulted in the death of an experimental person named Wagner. The letter is dated 16 April 1942. The letter reads: "Highly esteemed Reichsfuehrer: May I thank you for your letter of 13 April. I have been delighted with the great interest which you, highly esteemed Reichsfuehrer, are taking in the experiments and their results. I thank you for the inspirations you have given me in your letter.
"The experiment described in the report of 4 April was repeated 4 times each time with the same results. When Wagner, the last VP (experimental subject) had stopped breathing I let him come back to life by increasing pressure. Since the VPW was assigned for a terminal ("Terminal" meaning death-resulting in this case) experiment, since a repeated experiment held no prospect for new results, and since I had not been in possession of your letter at that time, I subsequently started another experiment through which VP Wagner did not live.
Also in this case the results obtained by electrocardiographic registration (Herzstromabschreibung) were extraordinary.
"In accordance with your orders, I tried to contact Dr. Fahren Kamp immediately upon receipt of your letter, however, I could not speak to him since he is layed up with angina. In a few days I shall ask again if Dr. Fahren is available.
"Meanwhile, at times together with Dr. Romberg I carried out falling experiments from heights of from 16 to 20 kilometers. There, contrary to theoretical assumptions, it was proved that falling through space after jumping from an airplane in the stratosphere (Druckkabinenflugzeugpressure cabin plane) is quite possible, as after severe unconsciousness the VP regained complete consciousness in each case, at between 7 and 8 kilometers height when the parachute lever, installed in the chamber, was pulled.
"Within the next few days I shall report at length on the experiments as well as on the above mentioned VP Wagner.
"I also have a request to make: may I take pictures of the various dissection preparations in the dissecting room of the concentration camp, to make a record of the strange formations of air embolism. In this connection, my wife has already written to SS Sturmbannfuehrer Dr. Brandt.
"Highly esteemed Reichsfuehrer, allow me to close by assuring you that your active interest in these experiments has a tremendous influence on one's working capacity and initiative. I am with devoted greetings and Heil Hitler, yours gratefully devoted, signed Rascher."
We now turn to Document No. 1613 PS, which will be Prosecution's Exhibit No. 104, and which appears on page 82 of the English and 117 of the German document books. This is a letter from Rascher to Himmler, dated 16 October 1942, which accompanies the final report on freezing experiments at Dachau. It reads as follows: Highly esteemed Reichsfuehrer: -- "Permit me to submit the attached final report on the super-cooling experiments performed at Dachau.
432-a This report does not contain the course and results of a series of experiments with drugs, as well as experiments with animal body heat (animalisher-Waerme) which are now being conducted.
Likewise this report does not contain the microscopic pathological examinations of the brain tissues of the deceased; I was surprised at the extraordinary microscopic findings in this field, I will carry out experiments with the start of the conference in which the effect of cooling will be discussed and I hope to be able to present further results by that time. My two coworkers left Dachau about 8 days ago. In the hope that you, highly esteemed Reichsfuehrer, will be able to spare a quarter of an hour to listen to an oral report, I remain, with the most obedient regards and, Hell Hitler. Yours respectfully, Signed S. Rascher."
This completes the Document Book 5-A, your Honors, and we will now turn to Book 5-B, Document No. 428, and which will be introduced as Prosecution's Exhibit No. 105. This is a final report on freezing experiments, and the thing is on page 84 of the English and on the 4th page of the German document book. It is signed by Professor Hoslinger, Rascher, Fink, and is a report on experiments on human beings. I shall read the under the table contents Roman No. I, problems of the experiment. It is on page 85 of the English and I think page 4 of the German book. It reads: "Up to the present time there has been no basis for the treatment of shipwrecked persons who have been exposed for long periods of time to low water temperatures. These uncertainties extended to the possible physical and pharmacologial methods of attack. It was not clear, for example, whether those who had been rescued should be warmed quickly or slowly. According to the current instructions for treating frozen people, a slow warming up seemed to be indicated.
Certain theoretical considerations could be adduced for a slow warming. Well-founded suggestions were missing for a promising medicinal therapy.
"All these uncertainties rested in the last analysis upon the absence of well-founded concepts concerning the cause of death by cold in human beings. In the meantime, in order to clarify this question, a series of animal experiments were started. And, indeed, these officials who wished to make definite suggestions.
433a to the doctors in the sea rescue service had to assume a great deal of responsibility if it came to a question of convincing and consistent results in these animal experiments.
At this particular point it is especially difficult to carry the findings in animals over into the human field. In the warm-blooded, one finds a varied degree of development in the heat-regulating mechanism. Besides this, the processes in the skin of the pelted animals cannot be carried over to man."
And now I will read under Roman Numeral VI, which is on page 104 of the English Document, and on page 19 of the German Book: "Death after cooling in water. Practical and Theoretical considerations. Reports to the effect that those who have been rescued at sea are imperilled for a considerable time after rescue have aroused special attention. It has been reported especially that sudden cases of death occurred as much as twenty minutes to ninety minutes after rescue, and that in mass catastrophes these sudden deaths could amount to mass-dying (rescue collapse). These observations have set off far-reaching discussions. Bleeding in the re-warming periphery, breakdowns of and humoral correlations and similar ideas have been brought up.
"In contrast to this our experiments give a relatively simple explanation of cold-death under these conditions. With the exception of a single case, a total irregularity of the heart chamber could be definitely demonstrated in all cases of cooling under 30° C (86° F), (50 experiments) when the restal temperature reached 29°C (84°F), and usually already at a cooling of 31°C, (88°F). The exception was an experiment on an intoxicated person, which is to be gone into more fully below (Sed Section VII).
"Furthermore a hearth-death was established clinically in all 434a cases of death observed by us.
In two cases breathing cased simultaneously with the heart activity. These were cases in which it was specially noted that the neck and the back of the head lay deep in the water. In all remaining cases breathing outlasted the clinical chamber-cessation by as much as twenty minutes. In part this was "normal, much decelerated breathing", in part an angonal form of gasping. As already referred to, a Verhefflutter could be demonstrated cardiographically during the irregularity.
"In cases in which a special cooling of neck and back of the head had existed before death, the autopsy showed a marked brain edema, a tight filling of the general brain cavity (Hirngefaesse), blood in the spinal fluid as well as blood in the Michaelisrhomboid (Tautengrube)."
And now I should like to read from a figure which appears at the end of this experiment report, which is figure 13. I think that is on page 129 of the English document and it should be original page 571 of the German. This is just a graph and here we have the annotations in regard to deaths of several persons as a result of these freezing experiments, figure 13, the behavior of the heart action under the influence of medication. This is still Document No-428.
Subject Water Occurrence of Irregularity Temperature after at Experimental Body Temperature. Time Therapy mg.
strop at minute Pulse becomes regular Total Duration after after of Irregularity Experimental Administering time strophanthine Remarks; B.L. 4cc Death in the 70th minute, ten coranim minutes after removal from water L.H. intracardial Death (heart stopped) five minutes after administering strophanthine, ten minutes after removal from water.
V.E. heart, massage Death (heart stopped in the sixty-sixth coramin cardiazel artifical minute during removal from water. respiration S.M. artificial res- Death (heart stopped) in the eighty-seventh piration caria- minute, seven minutes after removal from zol water.
L.O. Death (heart stopped) in the sixty-fifth minute eight minutes after removal from water."
MR. MC MAHON: That completes the reference to NO 428.
435 A We would now like to offer in evidence Document No. NOKW 264, which will be Exhibit No. 106 and is on page 131 of the English, and 119 of the German Document Book.
The German Document Book is 5-C. Document Book 5-C, page 119 of that book. This document is NOKW-264 and is the affidavit of SS standertenfuehrer Wolfram Sievers, dated 19 November 1946. Sievers was manager of the Ahnenerbe Society, a research and instruction group within the SS. Sievers states that a Fuehrer order at the beginning of the war prohibited the further use of Wehrmacht volunteers for high-altitude experiments. The Court will please note that Sievers witnessed the death of experimental persons and refers to the chain of command and the correspondence which Wolff had with Milch. The affidavit reads:
"I, Wolfram Sievers, swear, state and declare:
"Since 1 July 1935 I was managing director of the Research and Teaching association, "Das Ahnenerbe." and I was admitted to membership of the SS late in 1935 where the last rank I held was that of SSStandartenfuehrer.
"The facts mentioned below are known to me as a result of my activity in the Ahnenerbe Society and in the SS. In accordance with a Fuehrer order it was prohibited to use volunteers of the Wehrmacht for high altitude experiments. The Luftwaffe sent a low pressure chamber to the concentration camp Dachau for the performance of the high altitude experiments.
"I witnessed a freezing experiment performed on an inmate of the concentration camp. He was a criminal who had been sentenced to death. Professor Dr. Hirth and Dr. Rascher were present at the experiment. The experiment itself was conducted by Dr. Rascher. Thermometers were put on the prisoner and he had to don a flyer's suit. He was given an Evipan injection, whereupon he became unconscious and was immersed into icecooled water. In the course of this experiment the prisoner died and immediately after his death an autopsy was performed by Prof. Dr. Hirth.
"Dr. Rascher was a captain in the Medical Corps or the Luftwaffe until the end of 1943. He was subordinate to the Chief of the Medical Inspectorate Dr. Hippke. Dr. Hippke was, as far as I know, directly under the orders of Fieldmarshal General Milch, the Inspector General of the Luftwaffe.
"Milch must have known about the experiments of Dr. Rascher. This is evident from the correspondence between Milch and Wolff, in which the latter, in his capacity as Chief of the Personal Staff of Himmler, writes and reports on this matter. The complete information on the details, according to my opinion, belongs within the scope of the Medical Inspectorate of the Luftwaffe, that is, of Dr. Hippke's office. Oberguppenfuehrer Wolff was called "Woelfchen" meaning "little wolf" by his acquaintances and addressed accordingly."
This affidavit is signed by Wolfram Sievers. Prosecution now offers in evidence Document NOKW 391, which will be Exhibit No. 107, and is at page 133 of the English and 121 of the German Document Book. This is an interrogation taken from Dr. Romberg, dated 29 October 1946. Dr. Romberg, dated 29 October 1946. Dr. Romberg reveals somewhat reluctantly that these experiments were going beyond previously known limits and that cases of death were to be expected and it was for this reason that experimental prisoners were used instead of German volunteers as had been the case heretofore. Beginning about three-fourths of the way down the page with the question:
"Q In fact the question comes up how is it that these high altitude experiments were carried out on KZ, meaning concentration camp inmates. For I know, for instance, that before the war the ZVL (German Air Transport League) had made some tests in high altitude experiments, and at that time volunteers put themselves at the disposal of the physicians.
"A Yes, we always made them.
"Q All of a sudden an end is put to it and prisoners of concentration camps are used. So I have to presume that there was a possibility of deathly issue and that therefore prisoners were used?
"A It was something like this: we had made experiments on ourselves not only in our own but also in other institutes and in doing so had dealt with altitude up to 17,000 meters and now a physical limit had proved to be near 17,800 meters, the boiling point of the blood, so that it was possible that in this case it could come to a sudden boiling up of the blood and that consequently cases of death had to be expected.
"Q And for that reason prisoners of concentration camps were used?
"A After preparation by partial experiments in which the blood did not reach the boiling point, the actual experiments were tackled. It was a question of whether or not something would happen. The results of the partial experiments gave no reason to anticipate that something would happen; on the other hand, however, it w&a not excluded."
Then reading from page 34 of the original, still on the same page in the English document Book:
"Q And no deaths occurred with you, only with Rascher and Rascher never informed you and told you that there were deaths during his high altitude experiments? I remind you of your oath.
"A Yes, I know of individual cases. I said to Rascher that I did not want to have anything to do with this affair and that I was protesting against it.
"Q To whom?
"A To Rascher.
"Q When approximately did you first mention to Rascher that you had had enough of these experiments?
"A I can't tell exactly.
"Q You were in Dachau for 8 weeks, 2 months, about February to April?
"A No, it was later; March to May.
"Q And when, approximately, did you get the impression that things were happening there which you could not reconcile with your principle and about when did you report about it to Ruff?
"A That must have been the end of April -- beginning of May.
The next document, NOKW-126, will not be offered in evidence but we will pass to NOKW-140 which will be Prosecution Exhibit No. 108 and is on page 139 of the English and 127 of the German copy. This is an affidavit signed by Br. Siegfried Ruff who was in charge of the Medical Section of the DVL.
Dr. Romberg was sent by Dr. Ruff to Dachau to work on the experiments. He refers to the chain of command for these experiments naming Milch, Hippke, Ruff and Romberg in that order; he also states that Dr. Hippke and defendant Milch were informed of the results of these tests. The affidavit reads:
"I, Siegfried Ruff, upon oath, depose arid say:
"During the war I acted as manager of the Air Medical Department of the German Research Institute for Aviation DVL in Berlin Adlershof.
"I have personal knowledge of all the facts related here.
"The entire Air Medical Research was in charge of General Dr. Erich Hippke in his capacity as Chief of Medical affairs until 1944 and then Professor Schroeder. As Chief of the Medical Service General Hippke was directly subordinate to Fieldmarshal Milch. As far as the altitude experiments are concerned which were carried out in 1942 on concentration camp inmates in Dachau. I have sent Dr. Hans Romberg as expert to Dachau to conduct the experiments. Dr. Romberg was sent to Dachau in agreement with General Hippke. The pressure chamber which was used for these tests in Dachau was sent to Dachau by the Luftwaffe. This was done upon orders by the Luftwaffe Medical Service and the pressure chamber was used in Dachau upon my instigation. General Dr. Hippke had full knowledge of the fact that altitude experiments were carried on in Dachau on living persons and that those persons were concentration camp inmates. To my knowledge, Fieldmarshal Milch was kept informed on these tests either by General Hippke or by the SS. The order of command for these tests was Milch, Hippke, Ruff and Romberg. The freezing experiments performed in 1942 were carried out in Dachau by Dr. Rascher without the assistance of Dr. Romberg and there can be no doubt that Dr. Hippke and Fieldmarshal Milch were informed of the results of these tests."
This affidavit is signed on the 25th of October 1946. The next document to be offered in evidence will be NO-222, which will be Prosecution Exhibit No. 109 and is on page 141 of the English Document Book and page 129 of the German Document Book. This is a letter from Rudolf Brandt to Sievers saying that Himmler had recently sent an experimental report to Milch.
This document indicates that Milch receiving reports on the experiments. The letter reads:
"To SS Obersturmbannfuehrer Sievers "Dear Comrade Sievers:
"SS Untersturmfuehrer Dr. Rascher's supposition is not correct. The letter of the Reichsfuehrer SS by which he transmitted the report to General Fieldmarshal Milch was only signed and sent off a few days ago. I assume that the General Fieldmarshal will of himself give the necessary orders and then confine himself to sending a brief answer to the Reichsfuehrer SS.
"I enclose a copy of the Reichsfuehrer SS's letter dated 25 August 1942 for your information.
"Hearty Greetings and Heil Hitler (signed) R. Br." Rudolf Brandt The next document to be offered in evidence is NO-226, which will be Prosecution Exhibit No. 110. This is on page 142 of the English and 130 of the German Document Book.
This is a letter from Sievers to Brandt dated 21 October 1942 discussing a revival of the high altitude experiments. The letter reads:
"To the Reichsfuehrer SS, "Personal Staff, "c/o SS Obersturmbannfuehrer Dr. Brandt "Subject:
High altitude flying experiments by Dr. Rascher in Dachau.
"Dear Comrade Brandt:
"In connection with the report made in field headquarters concerning the high altitude flight experiments, a report was to be made to Fieldmarshal Milch too. The date of 11 September was chosen. As you will see from the attached file note of Dr. Romberg, this report has not been made, and indeed the whole thing has gone wrong, so to say. At any rate, the attitude of the gentlemen of the Medical Inspectorate of the Luftwaffe has altered considerably since that date. What would you think if I were to write a letter to the Medical Inspector Generaloberstabsarzt Dr. Hippke, that Rascher was only authorized to report in person to Fieldmarshal Milch, and that, accordingly, he -- as well as Dr. Romberg -- had but obeyed an order of the Reichsfuehrer, when they did not make a report on September 11th.
Perhaps this would persuade the highly insulted gentlemen to fo-operate again. The deep-freezing experiments are terminated now, so that the continuation of the high altitude flying experiments, as desired by the Reichsfuehrer SS can now begin. In this connection, we need once more the low pressure chamber, but this time with differential pumps, as otherwise large-scale altitude tests cannot be carried out. The new experiments will also serve to conclude the habilitation thesis of Rascher. The putting at our disposal of the low pressure chamber, however, will be possible then only, if the Reichsfuehrer SS writes in person to Fieldmarshal Milch concerning this. I include the draft of such a letter. Yours."
The draft of this letter on the next page reads as follows:
"To Fieldmarshal, Secretary of State Milch "Subject:
Low pressure chamber for high altitude flying experiments.
"In connection with the report I had submitted to me here by Stabsarzt Dr. Rascher and Dr. Romberg concerning the carrying-out of high altitude flying experiments, I had desired that a similar report be submitted to you too. Although it has not been possible for you to participate in the conference of 11th September 1942 and to convince yourself of the results, up to now, of the experiments, I beg you once more today, to put at our disposal the low pressure chamber, through the Aviation Experimental Institute. As the experiments are to be extended to greater altitudes, this time differential pumps would also have to be supplied.
"As I take a great interest in the continuation of the altitude flight experiments suspended in June last, and as I believe that we can still achieve very considerable results, I would be grateful to you if you would have the low pressure chamber and the differential pumps brought to Dachau very soon, and if, at the same time, Dr. Romberg were made available again for the continuation of the experiments."