Q. Do you know Fritz Pillwein?
A. Yes.
Q. Do you know Worlicek?
A. I can't remember him very well.
Q. Do you know Marcio?
A. That was a Frenchman at the Luftwaffe Station as far as I remember.
Q. Yes, did. you have comradely relations with these people?
A. Yeses people you have just mentioned?
Q. Yes.
A. Yes, as far as I had any contact with them.
Q. You say that at the end of the experiments Professor Beiglboeck drew up a thorough report. It was dictated and in it it was stated that no one died?
A. I do not know of any report. I didn' t have any direct connections with the station.
Q. Don't you think that these people, above all the gypsies themselves, who participated, must know better than you that no one died?
A. We had observed that the experimental stations always tried to have as few incidents as possible on their records. Often at other experimental stations the persons who were tortured to death were removed to the normal hospital.
Q. And from this experience in the camp you say...you concluded that Beiglboeck might have acted in the same way and tried to conceal things in the same way?
A. I do not conclude this. I merely say that after the end of the experiments this one patient died at an internal station without any other pathological symptoms. There was nothing except that he had participated in the experiment.
Q. Later, after the liberation, did you perhaps meet any of the experimental subjects?
A. I do not remember doing so.
Q. Do you consider the people whom I have mentioned-Pillwein, Worlicek, Marcio, and then there was a Dr. Lesse, - do you consider them decent, creditable persons, or do you want to say that in your own experience these people are scoundrels and cannot be trusted to tell the truth?
A. I should like to say that those were decent comrades.
DR. STEINBAUER: Thank you. I have no further questions.
THE PRESIDENT: Any questions of the witness on the part of any other defense counsel? Have the Prosecution any further questions?
MR. HARDY: The Prosecution has no further questions, Your Honor.
THE PRESIDENT: There being no further questions to be propounded to the witness, the witness is excused from the stand.
MR. HARDY: May it please your Honor. At this time I wish to call the attention of the Tribunal to Dr. Steinbauer's request that we call the witness, Worlicek, some time during the day or the next day, inasmuch as he wishes to go back to Vienna on a business trip and if we call him later, Dr. Steinbauer may be out of the city; so, after the testimony of the witness, Mettbach is heard, I would be in a position to call Worlicek as a rebuttal witness, to comply with the wishes of Dr. Steinbauer. I could call him this afternoon. I will prepare him this noon-time and call him this afternoon. Mettbach, I understand, will be called too. If Mettbach is not here at this time, Dr. Steinbauer could continue presenting his documents until Mettbach, arrived.
THE PRESIDENT: I do not know whether the witness, Mettbach, is available at this time. Do you know, Dr. Steinbauer?
DR. STEINBAUER: Your Honors, I have asked Mettbach to be here at noon. I have not seen him for a few days. I assume that he will come, though, and I shall let the Tribunal know. If he doesn't come I shall submit the rest of my documents and I am willing to have pillwein and Worlicek be examined.
THE PRESIDENT: Very well. You do not...You said you asked him to be here at noon. It is now noon. You don't know whether the witness is here now or not?
DR. STEINBAUER: He will be here at 1:30 to eat; that is the important thing for him.
THE PRESIDENT: I assumed that's what you meant. Well, doctor, you may now proceed with the introduction of some of your documents.
DR. STEINBAUER: The next document which I offer is testimony of Dr. Edgar Hermann, Document 7, Exhibit No. 24. It is in document book 1, page 13 to 15. Dr. Hermann was a doctor in the camp with Beiglboeck, not in Dachau but in the camp at Tarvis, a troop camp, and met him there. I shall read only from page 14, the first sentence:
"All soldiers honored and loved him; to wards the patients he was like a faithfully caring mother, and he had a kind word for everyone. Russian and Italian prisoners were often treated. Professor Beiglboeck made no difference between them and our own people. He kept them far longer than the time allowed for them as patients, as he knew what a difficult time these people had as prisoners."
The next document which I should like to offer as Exhibit 25 is the affidavit of Lorenz Schmid, Document 8, volume 1, page 16-18. I read from page 16 at the top:
" From December 1943 to March 1945 I was assigned to the 21st Parachute Field Hospital, Tarvis/Kaernten as Stabsintendant of the German Wehrmacht."
Then I skip a few lines:
"Chief physician was Dr. Jaeger; Dr. Wilhelm Beiglboeck was Chief of the Department of internal and infectious diseases."
Then at the bottom:
"Beiglboeck did not know the reason for his assignment, and neither did I. I was only concerned with the affair insofar as, as administrative officer, I had to calculate the traveling and other expenses."
Then he describes Beiglboeck's return and says, in the center of page 2.
"I also asked him what the camp looked like. To this he replied that he could tell me nothing, as he had scarcely ever entered the camp, and had concerned himself only with his work."
The next document is affidavit of Dr. Franz Himmelstoss, which will be Exhibit No. 26. It is document 13, on page 28 of Document Book 1. This is a doctor who worked with Dr. Beiglboeck at Travis.
I read Point 1:
" In summer 1944 I worked as a physician in the parachute war-hospital in Tarvis, Upper Italy. At about the same time Dr. Beiglboeck worked there. He came to Tarvis from Dachau and I heard that he had also been in Tarvis before having been assigned to Dachau.
Then point 3:
" Dr. Beiglboeck told me, as well as others, that he was in Dachau but that he had not had much of a chance to see the internal procedure of the concentration camp....Dr. Beiglboeck also told us that the people volunteered for these sea-water experiments because they got better food and did not have to work, and that this was not detrimental to them except that they, to a certain extent, suffered from thirst."
Then point 6:
"Dr. Beiglboeck had no personal or scientific advantages from his experiments; on the contrary he had to postpone his own research work on infectious jaundice--hepatitis epidemicaowing to these experiments."
The next document which I offer is the affidavit of Professor Dr. Carl-Heinz Fishcher, as Exhibit No. 27, Document Book 2, No. 30, page 111. Professor Dr. Carl Heinz Fischer is a specialist for diseases of the teeth, mouth and jaws. He says in the third paragraph:
"When I heard about the examinations he carried out there that was the first I had heard of the experiments which were carried out on concentration camp prisoners--I asked Beiglboeck straight way if the concentration camp prisoners on whom he had to carry out the experiments were volunteers.
"Beiglboeck answered this question in the affirmative and I remember that his statements gave me the impression that the persons who were used by Beiglboeck for the experiments were under no compulsion, but that they were really volunteers.
"Furthermore, I asked Beiglboeck if anyone had been killed by the experiments or whether their health was likely to suffer in the future. Beiglboeck answered this question in the negative and I had the impression that in this respect everything possible was done to avoid complications" The next document will be the report of the Germany Navy doctor, Dr.Behr, on clinical observations of shipwrecked persons.
This will be Exhibit No. 28. It is document No. 19, Document Book 1, page 65.
It is a long document. I shall read merely from page 5, the summary. He said:
"In this case three people were able to live for 37 days on a water supply of at first 100 cc. It mast, however, be remembered that the general conditions were extremely bad.
The space available to each person was very small. Night and day had to be spent in an upright position. In addition, there was the psychic strain. Day after day passed. No lend and no ship was sighted.
"Then the first deaths occurred, becoming a daily event. the bodies could be thrown overboard only with greatest efforts by the exhausted survivors. The bodies drifted for days beside the boat which hardly moved in the tropical glare of the sun. An enormous desire for life and similar courage is required to overcome all this."
Then I shall offer a document, an article in the English magazine, NATURE, by Dr. Parker who also deals with sea water experiments. This will be Exhibit 29. It is in Document Book 1, Document 18, on page 56. I shall read the first sentence showing that the problem was discussed elsewhere.
"The possibilities of obtaining potable water from sea water by some simple method suitable for use on lifeboats and in similar circumstances have been much discussed during the last few months in the daily Press and in other quarters. Some of the statements made and the opinions expressed have indicated lack of knowledge of the scientific and practical aspects of the problem and of the possibilities and impossibilities."
Then he closes with a summary which I should like to read to the Tribunal on page 64 of the document book.
"Conclusion. It may be that investigations now being made will lead to some practicable method, suitable for use in lifeboats, of obtaining drinking water from sea water by simple distillation or by the use of base-exchange and acid exchange materials and chemical precipitating agents.
Any method proposed, however, must be submitted to stringent tests before it is recommended if undue risk of failure with serious consequences is to be avoided. Meanwhile arrangements have been made to provide lifeboats with larger quantities of drinking water than has previously been the practice."
The next document is an excerpt from an English book by Critchley on shipwrecked persons, in the supplemental volume, Document 37. The title is "Shipwrecked Survivors". I would like to ask the intercretors to read this document in English because my English pronounciation is not very good and then to translate it into German. It is on page 44 at the bottom.
THE PRESIDENT: I don't find that document, counsel. I may have it here.
MR. HARDY: The prosecution does not have a copy. If counsel may wait until after recess I may have it among my papers. If not, arrangements could be made by the defense counsel to obtain six copies of the English copy of it.
THE PRESIDENT: We have no copy of Document 3.
DR. STEINBAUER: No, this is only a supplement. This document was handed in later and I got the copies from the General Secretary's Office so the prosecution must have it already.
MR. HARDY: I don't have it at this time, your Honor. If it would be convenient I would ask Dr. Steinbauer to put off introducing this document until I have the opportunity to persue it.
THE PRESIDENT: Counsel has some other document he may offer?
DR. STEINBAUER: At the moment I have no other documents. Yes -- the next document is an affidavit of a doctor who is also at Tarvisio, Dr. Joachim Gloger, which I would like to offer as Exhibit 31. This is Document 25, first document in Document Book 2, page 98. I shall read from page 98, at the bottom, that:
"Not only German soldiers but Italians, Yugoslavs, Russians and Poles -- partly PoW's and partly axis workers or civilians -- as I saw for myself, had the same selfsacrificing medical and human care."
Then at the bottom of page 3:
"Professor Beiglboeck at first performed the sea water experiments on himself, drinking daily half a liter of sea water for, as far as I remember, five days in order to create by this preceding self-experiment his own impression of the experiment." page 100a.
Then at the bottom of page 101:
"He told mo that during the tests he constantly carried through clinical controls. By intravenous injections of physiological sodium chloride solution, etc., or drinking of fresh water, the patients recovered very quickly. Permanent damage was not to be expected from the test as only acute and reversible changes would have occurred. Every lasting damage could be excluded about which he got certainty by means of a thorough physical examination at the end of his stay in Dachau. Accordingly, no death occurred."
The next document is a statement of Dr. Ernst Gros which I offer as Exhibit 32. It is in Document Book 1, Document Book 1, Document 9, page 19. Dr. Gros says:
"I, Dr. Gros, born on 1 February 1907, German subject, surgeon by profession, residing at 14 Rheingaustrasse, Wiesbaden-Bieberich, herewith declare on oath that I know the following facts at first hand:
I know Professor Dr. Wilhelm Beiglboeck through my collaboration with him in the field hospital in Tarvis. In 1944 he was Chief of the Medical Department while I was in charge of the Aseptic Surgical and later on of the entire Surgical Department."
Then I go on to page 3, page 21 of the document book:
"Dr. Beiglboeck described to me the purpose and execution of the prescribed experiments. For these experiments only volunteers had been taken and they had received increased rations for some time. He said that he had conducted the experiments in way that they could not cause any serious general damage."
Then I continue on the same page. He says:
"He said that he had himself undertaken or supervised the after-treatment of the experimental subjects and that it had been surprising to observe how rapidly they recovered from the anhydremic condition to subjective well-being. Immediately after mis return he told me that he was glad that he had not a single death to regret."
Then I omit one sentence and continue:
"Moreover, knowing his mentality and his concept of the medical profession, I could believe and understand his bersion to the assignment end his satisfaction with the humane execution of the experiments. I assume that Dr. Beiglboeck already knew me well enough at that time to confide to me frankly and without restraint these matters which distressed him so much."
And then in the last paragraph:
"I should like to add that in our hospital wounded Americans and wounded Englishmen were tended and treated with the same care and the same interest as our own wounded soldiers and in this connection I can name our patients Major Olen Bryant (0789090 T 41) and Lt. Robert F. Horan (0773385 T 43/44) of the American Air Force, who lay in my department for some considerable time before the collapse."
And the next document which I offer as Exhibit No. 33 is in Document Book 1, page 90.
THE PRESIDENT: What is the number of that document?
DR. STEINBAUER: Document 22, page 90, Exhibit 33. This is an article from the First Medical university Clinic in Vienna on liver punctures by Dr. Walter Kofler. I shall only read one sentence, page 2, Document page 91 of the document book, at the top:
"Performed after a well-administered local anesthesia, the liver puncture is nearly painless and hardly inconveniences the patient."
THE PRESIDENT: Counsel, it is now time to go into recess. At this time the Tribunal will recess until two o'clock. It will reconvene at two o'clock. The Tribunal will now be in recess.
(A recess was taken.)
AFTERNOON SESSION ( The hearing reconvened at 1400 hours, 17 June 1947)
THE MARSHAL: The Tribunal is again in session.
THE PRESIDENT: Counsel may proceed with the offering of documents.
DR. STEINBAUER (Defense Counsel for the defendant Beiglboeck): I submit as Exhibit #30, an excerpt from the book "Shipwreck Survivors" by Lieutenant Critchley.
THE PRESIDENT: The Tribunal does not seen to have copies. Are German copies of this document available for the Tribunal now?
DR. STEINBAUER: There are none. It hasn't been translated.
THE PRESIDENT: That will be furnished later, doubtless. See that they are.
DR. STEINBAUER: I now would like to ask the interpreters, from this document which will become Exhibit 30, on the bottom of page 140 to read the paragraph, and then, on the following page, page 62, regarding the loss of weight, and then to translate it into German, if the Tribunal permits.
INTERPRETER: Shall I read it, Your Honor?
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, the interpreter will read the portion of the document mentioned.
INTERPRETER: Page 140, last paragraph:
"Loss of weight. The professional faster Levanzin lost 13.25 kilos (or 21.9 per cent of his original weight) in thirty-one days. The emaciation from starvation is less rapid, however, than that from dehydration, where 4 lb. may be lost a day. In men adrift, the profound loss in weight is due to the combination of inadequate food and water. Exact figures are generally lacking, but losses of as much as 5 stone have been known..."
And page 62 on page 141 of the document book:
"The victim may have lost considerable weight-50, 60, or 70 lb., as in some of our cases, but with the resumption of full diet, weight is very quickly regained, indicating that the loss of water had been responsible for much of the emaciation.
.."
MR. HARDY: Your Honor, it was the intention of Dr. Steinbauer to have that translated into German simultaneously with the English reading thereof--the two paragraphs.
INTERPRETER: Your Honor, we can't read over the English and German channels at the same time. It has to be done subsequently.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I understand that, but it is now being done in German, isn't it?
INTERPRETER: Yes, Your Honor.
DR. STEINBAUER: And now, I would like to ask you to read the last paragraph Page 63, that is Page 143 of the document.
INTERPRETER: "Although dehydration is thought to lower bodily resistance, it is significant how very rarely there develops at this stage any of the acute respiratory complications, infective disorders or rheumatic, fibrositic, neuritic or nephritic symptoms, traditionally described as 'sequelae of exposure to cold and wet.'"
DR STEINBAUER: May it please the Tribunal, for the time I have no further documents to submit.
My witness, Ernst Mettbach, in spite of the request to appear today, did not come today. Efforts are being made to bring him here now. Therefore, I would like to request the Prosecution, since they, I believe, have two witnesses here--Vorlicek and Pillwein--perhaps they can be examined now. I don't know where they are but perhaps that is possible.
MR. HARDY: It is possible to call the witness Vorlicek at this time. The prosecution, however, does not intend to call the witness Pillwein. The prosecution submitted an affidavit of the witness Pillwein and the defense counsel requested him as their witness, having had him in Nurnberg for a considerable time. Defense counsel, in lieu of calling him to the stand, submitted an extensive affidavit from the witness Pillwein and the prosecution does not desire to cross examine the witness in view of that fact.
However, before calling the witness, I might ask Dr. Steinbauer whether he intends to introduce these charts and records of the seawater experiments which have been under discussion here for a consi-derable period of time. The prosecution intends to introduce them if he does not. However, I believe that he requested that he wishes to introduce them. I would like to hear from him on that subject.
DR. STEINBAUER: In regard to the last question, Your Honors, I recall the incident that arose during the examination of my client in regard to the fever curves. As the fever curves are in the possession of the Prosecution and since Professor Ivy stated that they are a suitable basis for an opinion about the experiments, I believe that the prosecution should therefore submit these documents. I should also like to use this occasion in order to clarify a further question.
Please let me finish.
MR. HARDY: We should discuss this subject concerning the documents before we go on to another subject. I have extensive number of things to take up concerning these documents. Perhaps we can finish that before Dr. Steinbauer goes on with something else.
THE PRESIDENT: I think it might be well to hear Dr. Steinbauer's second phase of this matter before going into the matter of documents. Counsel for the defendant may proceed.
DR. STEINBAUER: (Counsel for the defendant Beiglboeck) As far as the documents are concerned which are under discussion here, the matter are as follows: The prosecution based its evidence on Document Book 5 which contains minutes of meetings and statements of witnesses regarding the seawater experiments. Now, I made efforts to gather evidence material, and around Christmas time, I found two notebooks. One that had a black cover and another notebook which I would like to call the gray notebook. Professor Beiglboeck was very happy about the discovery of these two notebooks because they contained a number of facts which gave him the possibility of reconstructing his experiments in his mind. He had been a prisoner since March or the beginning of April, 1945, and a prisoner under investigation pending trial.
On the 20th of January, professor Ivy was here, and I was here, and I was informed that this professor was interested in the seawater experiments. Professor Beiglboeck on this occasion showed these two notebooks to Professor Ivy. Both of us assumed that it was a purely scientific interest of Professor Ivy's; and according to his entire attitude, it was entirely scientific because he was interested in the seawater question.
Professor Ivy said at that time that he especially studied the 1,000 cc Group; he said; all of these fellows drank water, and that it was a very diligent, scientific work, and too bad that it was undertaken in a concentration camp. These two notebooks MR. HARDY: Your Honors, -DR. STEINBAUER: (Counsel for the defendant Beiglboeck): Just a moment, let me finish, please. These two notebooks were never in the possession of anyone else, but were always in my own possession. On the occasion of this discussion, at which a member of the prosecution staff was also present, it was found out chat the so-called black book had the names of some of the experimental subjects on the front page. I kept these notebooks, I had them in my custody. And in the beginning, or the middle of May, I don't remember the exact date anymore at the moment, I was requested to give these notebooks up. At that time, I stated that I would not hand them over because they contained in part the names, and I do not feel that I have the right to help the Prosecution in their research. I also stated that there are names on the fever charts, and that I should not submit them, even if the danger exists that the expert opinion of Professor Vollhardt should not be accepted by the Court.I should like to remark here that Professor Vollhardt used these fever charts as the main basis of his testimony, in addition to some other documents Professor Beiglboeck had; and he used these technical fever charts.
When I received the order to hand them over, I stated that I should give them up only without the names. So that the Tribunal should not think that I was trying to deceive the Court, I told a number of my colleagues before at that time, and they can testify to that fact, that if the Court wants to see these names, I shall give them to the Court at the moment when the trial is concluded.
Now, my client committed this stupid act and put me in a bad light, too, in public. I then discussed with my colleagues whether I should at that time take the legal consequences and resign from my position as defense counsel I did not do so for the following reasons: When I agreed to take over the defense of Professor Beiglboeck, I had heard only good things about him, but he was represented to me as a very weak and sensitive character, a man who is subject to moods. I was informed that he was torn from an excellent career, chased away from his position, robbed of his apartment, robbed of his books, his library, that he had a serious nervous breakdown, and in that condition he was delivered to the Vienna Police Department in the Spring of 1946. I seldom have had as much trouble as with the defense of the defendant Beiglboeck, because it was very difficult with a man who is as absolutely broken to reach some kind of an understanding with him. He only assured me again and again that he was innocent and that he was being persecuted unjustly. I tried to convince him that this was not true. I can state to the Court here, and witnesses can confirm this, that in the middle of February and at the beginning of May I prevented him from committing suicide, That Beiglboeck is still in a condition as good as he is now we can thank all of his comrades in the dock for, who assured me again and again that he is a nice fellow, and they will do their best the chear him up. Therefore, I believe that it is not in accordance with my legal obligations as defense counsel, now that when I have already finished my case and when the prosecution's case in chief is finished, -- I didn't know the prosecution would bring new witnesses now and new evidence -- I don't consider it in accordance with my duty to leave him alone now because right now is the time when he needs more help than ever; and therefore, I believe that I should continue my difficult task further.
This matter brought me into an unpleasant position myself. I want to emphasize expressly that my cooperation with the prosecution was always a good one, a good relationship. I think that Mr. McHaney can also confirm that I said I should submit the list of the names, and if the Court desires it, I shall be glad to do so. Before I do so, I should like to see the witness; I should like to do that at the end. I have this cover with the names here, and as I said, all of my colleagues, who are always together with me in the morning, were told by me, before this incident occurred, that I should submit this list to the Court so that the impression should not be created that I tried to deceive the Court. The motive was that in the case of the experimental subjects which we were concerned with, they were primitive simple people who, as I already tried to make clear from the gypsy book, in large part belong to families who are listed by the public authorities as asocial. I found 17 among these names who belong to asocial families here in Bavaria. I do not want to say anything about the experimental subjects, who suffered terribly. But if the matter should be followed up further, one would have to get a police record of everyone, and the family tree, and then one would certainly find that my statements are correct.
It is a tragedy that there is a certain confusion of persons here, Dr. Beiglboeck says Dr. Popper is guilty, and he confirms again and again that he never did a thing to his colleagues; and that especially ho was not present at the time when Popper was dismissed from the clinic, and that - the professors who are now in Vienna can confirm this - he regretted those incidents at the time and even disapproved of them, I cannot say anything more about this whole affair.
THE PRESIDENT: Counsel is mistaken, if I understand him correctly, in one statement, and that is that the Tribunal directed that these books, documents, records, and charts be turned over to the Prosecution. The Tribunal took them into custody with directions that they remain in the custody of the General Secretary only, to be examined by either counsel for the Prosecution or the Defense in the presence of someone designated by the Secretary General. The Tribunal never directed that they should be burned over to the Prosecution, and I have no reason for supposing that they ever were turned over the the Prosecution.
MR. HARDY: Your Honors, a correction there. During the examination of the witness, the expert Vollhardt, the testimony of Vollhardt was based on the charts; and at that time, the Prosecution had requested that they be allowed to study the charts so that they could properly crossexamine the witness; and at that time, the Tribunal issued the order that Steinbauer give up the charts for study. I think that is perhaps what he is referring to.
THE PRESIDENT: Technically, the papers were still within the custody of the Tribunal.
I had forgotten that.
I think counsel is correct as to that, but that was after they had been examined by -- that was before Beiglboeck took the stand. The Tribunal is of the opinion that Dr. Steinbauer, counsel for the defendant Beiglboeck, is not subject to censure in this matter. The Tribunal appreciates his forth-right direct statement with these matters and feels - that is, the Tribunal is presently advised upon his statement that his conduct has been that of an honorable lawyer. The Tribunal feels that, or is of the opinion that all these records and documents, having been before the Tribunal, having been shown to the witnesses, having been exhibited to the Tribunal, should now be made exhibits in the case, because a great deal of the evidence concerns those documents. The Tribunal would direct that these documents should remain in the custody of the Secretary General and become exhibits in this case, and be marked as exhibits in some appropriate manner and that this should include the covers of the books so that the books will be in exactly the same condition as they were when in the possession of the defendant Beiglboeck. That will be the order of the Tribunal, and I understand that counsel for the defendant Beiglboeck is ready to comply with that order of the Tribunal, am I correct, counsel?
DR. STEINBAUER: Yes, Your Honor.
MR. HARDY: Would it be possible for Dr. Steinbauer to reconstruct the names that were erased from the charts or does he think that beyond the realm of possibility?
TEE PRESIDENT: The erasure of the name from the charts is not referred to by the defendant Beiglboeck. The defendant Beiglboeck doesn't admit erasing them. He later admits he had altered the stenographic notes on the back of one of the charts.
If these charts can be reconstructed by adding the names -- many of them were admitted by the witness on the stand, and the record will show many of the names. In as far as the names can be restored to the original document it should be done.
MR. HARDY: Not on the original document, but on a separate document.
THE PRESIDENT: On those daily charts - I don't know how you refer to them.
The Tribunal approves Dr. Steinbauer's conduct to continue under these circumstances and represent his client in this trial.
MR. HARDY: Will defense counsel introduce the exhibit or win I introduce it as prosecution exhibit?
THE PRESIDENT: The Tribunal understood that counsel for defendant Beiglboeck stated at one stage of the proceedings these would be offered as defense documents. In case Dr. Steinbauer does not care to take that position they will be offered and will be received as prosecution exhibits.
MR. HANDY: Thank you.
DR. STEINBAUER: I shall give the number 34 to this document, to the document and the notebook, and after the session I shall also give the cover to the prosecutor so that the names on this cover can be seen by him, and I shall give the original as a document to the Court. For the moment I shall need it for the examination of the witness.
THE PRESIDENT: These documents are still officially in the custody of the Secretary General pursuant to order of the Tribunal. When they are marked, they shall be an exhibit and remain in the custody of the Secretary General, as all exhibits are in that office.