Extracts from the Testimony of Karl Doenitz, taken at Nürnberg, Germany, on 22 October 1945, 1030 - 1130 by Lt. Col. Thomas S. Hinkel, IGD, OUSCC, Cmdr. John P. Bracken, USNR, and Lt. Mechael Reade, Rn. Also present: Mr. Bernard Reymon, Interpreter, and John Wm. Gunsser, Court Reporter.
Q. Do you consider this order to be contrary to the prize rules of the German Navy issued in the beginning of the war?
A. I had never given such an order in the years 1939, 1940, 1941, or 1942, never. I had never given this order if I hadn't had the Laconia incident, see. Then I saw the time coming when I had to give the order, "you are not allowed to go to the surface at daytime at all". But I had the feeling after the incident,
' well that the boats' had done too much; they were not divable. And because the boats had lost their task places, for myself I had a feeling to show them the contrary side of it, and I was quite clear about this being no practical situation, for these few submarines who were concerned. Goad and Hessler told me "Don't make this wireless", you see: "one day there can be a wrong appearance about it; there can be a misinterpretation of that".
And then I told him that I must, I think, in the reality, take measures. I wished to prevent my submarines being bombed when they saved, and I must give them good reason for it. That was the whole thing of it, you see. This wireless had no significance at all. That's the reason why none of us remembered it. Two months later there were no submarines at all who came in the situation to get up. I am sure that no one, English or American men was not saved by that. I had to give it to prevent my submarines from being bombed at sea. That the Laconia showed me very clearly. That was the whole reason. And now you say that OKM said by this telegram he had attacked the boats. I can't understand it. There was never a discussion in the German submarine service about the thing which OKM has done.
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In 1939, 1940, 1941, and 1942, we were able to surface and we never did it, it was impossible. And then I gave such a telegram, an order not to save the people; you can't take them in the boats.
Q. Why did Goth and Hessler say this telegram might be subject to misinterpretation?
A. That's a very right question from your side. The misinterpretation is the political side of the thing, you see. The Nationals. They were quite sure nobody thought of a thing like that.
But these points why I am sitting here now and have to speak with you—I couldn't think, in 1942 that I would have to talk it over with you, you see. I only wish to tell the submarines the other side, you see. They had done too much. It is impossible to run away fifty miles without order, and' it is impossible to pack the people, two hundred people, on a submarine when the planes can come. It is impossible. You see that your bombs have not killed the submarines is good luck, in other words, which is one, two, three, four, five hundred people of yours in this incident. This was the whole situation. Thus I was under a great pressure. You see,.I received an order by Adolf Hitler, "You are not allowed to rjsk the boats." That was military; it was quite right. Nobody could be made any reproach when I had broken off, after the experience that the boats are bombed. Nobody could do it. I didn't do it because I couldn't break off. What should I do with all these poor people ? And that was the reason why I made this wireless.
Extract from an interrogation of Doenitz, on his order that U-boats should not attempt to rescue crew members of ships that were sunk
Authors
Karl Doenitz (admiral; submarine commander (1939-430; naval commander (1943-45))
Karl Doenitz
German admiral, supreme commander of the Navy, head of state and convicted war criminal (1891-1980)
- Born: 1891-09-16 (Grünau) (country: German Empire; located in the administrative territorial entity: Kingdom of Prussia)
- Died: 1980-12-22 1980-12-24 (Aumühle) (country: West Germany; located in the administrative territorial entity: Schleswig-Holstein)
- Country of citizenship: Germany
- Occupation: autobiographer; military officer; politician; soldier (period: 1910-01-01 through 1918-01-01, 1920-01-01 through 1945-01-01)
- Member of political party: Nazi Party
- Participant in: Nuremberg trials (charge: war crime, war of aggression; defender: Otto Kranzbühler; role: defendant)
- Military rank: Admiral (period: 1942-03-14 through 1943-01-30); Commodore (period: 1939-01-28 through 1939-10-01); Fregattenkapitän (period: 1933-10-01 through 1935-10-01); Fähnrich zur See (period: 1911-04-15 through 1913-09-27)
- Military branch: German Navy; Imperial German Navy (since: 1910-04-01); Kriegsmarine (since: 1935-06-01)
Thomas S. Hinkel (lt. col., interrogator, US war crimes staff)
Thomas S. Hinkel
Milch Trial interrogator
- Born: 1913-01-01 (Washington) (sourcing circumstances: circa)
- Died: 1968-06-03 (Bronxville)
- Country of citizenship: United States of America
- Occupation: lawyer
- Participant in: Milch Trial (role: interviewer)
- Military rank: lieutenant colonel
John P. Bracken (Lt. commander, US Navy; interrogator, IMT (1945))
John P. Bracken
- Additional details not yet available.
M. (Mechael or Michael?) Reade (Lt., British Navy; interrogator, IMT (1945))
M. (Mechael or Michael?) Reade
- Additional details not yet available.
Date: 22 October 1945
Literal Title: Extracts from the Testimony of Karl Doenitz, taken at Nuremberg, Germany on 22 October, 1945 1030-1130 by Lt. Col. Thomas S. Hinkel IGD, OUSCC, Cmdr. John P. Bracken, USNR, and Lt. Mechael Reade, Rn.
Defendant: Karl Doenitz
Total Pages: 2
Language of Text: English
Source of Text: Nazi conspiracy and aggression (Office of United States Chief of Counsel for Prosecution of Axis Criminality. Washington, D.C. : U.S. Government Printing Office, 1946.)
Evidence Code: D-866
Citation: IMT (page 9614)
HLSL Item No.: 452926
Notes:The extract does not indicate which interrogator asked the questions.